{"id":5992,"date":"2012-01-12T18:16:48","date_gmt":"2012-01-13T01:16:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/reviewermag.com\/press\/?p=5992"},"modified":"2012-07-19T12:57:58","modified_gmt":"2012-07-19T19:57:58","slug":"saigon-cool-posters-tattoos-and-chicken-girls-interview-with-punk-rocker-and-bar-owner-ben-burns","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/reviewermag.com\/press\/2012\/01\/12\/saigon-cool-posters-tattoos-and-chicken-girls-interview-with-punk-rocker-and-bar-owner-ben-burns\/","title":{"rendered":"Saigon Cool: Posters, Tattoos and &#8220;Chicken Girls&#8221; + Interview with Punk Rocker and Bar Owner Ben Burns"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1>Saigon Cool: Posters, Tattoos and &#8220;Chicken Girls&#8221; + Interview with Punk Rocker and Bar Owner Ben Burns <\/h1>\n<h2><i>Reviewer<\/i>  Goes Abroad<\/h2>\n<p><a class=\"twitter-share-button\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/share\" data-count=\"none\" data-via=\"reviewermag\">Tweet<\/a><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"http:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p><strong>By Katherine Sweetman<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Should you ever find yourself in\u00a0Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam (aka Saigon), I have four recommendations:<\/p>\n<p><strong>1) Shop at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lonelyplanet.com\/vietnam\/ho-chi-minh-city\/shopping\/souvenirs\/lotus\">Lotus<\/a> for vintage propaganda posters<\/strong> where you can get the originals and\/or smaller prints of real\u00a0Vietnamese agitprop posters.<\/p>\n<figure style=\"width: 500px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7161\/6649639621_52fbabe808_b.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7161\/6649639621_52fbabe808.jpg?resize=500%2C333\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"333\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Lotus - 25 \u00d0 Dong Khoi Dong Khoi Area<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_6001\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-6001\" style=\"width: 500px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/reviewermag.com\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/6650324849_1fb7102feb.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-6001\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/reviewermag.com\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/6650324849_1fb7102feb.jpg?resize=500%2C395\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"395\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/reviewermag.com\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/6650324849_1fb7102feb.jpg?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/reviewermag.com\/press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/6650324849_1fb7102feb.jpg?resize=300%2C237&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-6001\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Old Propaganda Posters at Lotus<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7001\/6649632759_864e6f748a_b.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7001\/6649632759_864e6f748a.jpg?resize=500%2C333\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"333\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>2) Get a tattoo at\u00a0<a title=\"T\u00e2m Bi\" href=\"http:\/\/www.xamphunnghethuat.com\/\">T\u00e2m Bi<\/a>, 209 Bui Vien, Quan 1.<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<figure style=\"width: 500px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7170\/6650003535_0bdf9591f1_b.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7170\/6650003535_0bdf9591f1.jpg?resize=500%2C333\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"333\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tattoo Shop through window<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure style=\"width: 500px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7011\/6649998023_95b89e1c33_b.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7011\/6649998023_95b89e1c33.jpg?resize=500%2C333\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"333\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">interior<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure style=\"width: 500px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7170\/6650001217_999351b00c_b.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7170\/6650001217_999351b00c.jpg?resize=500%2C333\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"333\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">artists<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<div class=\"mceTemp mceIEcenter\">\n<dl>\n<dt><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7005\/6650281423_6503b91e06_b.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7005\/6650281423_6503b91e06_z.jpg?resize=427%2C640\" alt=\"\" width=\"427\" height=\"640\" \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mceTemp mceIEcenter\">\n<dl>\n<dt><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7163\/6650280435_3b8045a4b6_z.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7163\/6650280435_3b8045a4b6_z.jpg?resize=427%2C640\" alt=\"\" width=\"427\" height=\"640\" \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>3) Have a drink before and after you get a tattoo at the bar next door to the tattoo shop, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shotsbarsaigon.com\/\">SHOTS<\/a>, and find this guy&#8211; Ben Burns.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"mceTemp mceIEcenter\" style=\"text-align: center\">\n<dl>\n<dt><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7158\/6650240093_e7e244edfb_b.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/farm8.staticflickr.com\/7158\/6650240093_e7e244edfb.jpg?resize=500%2C333\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"333\" \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<dd>Ben Burns<\/dd>\n<\/dl>\n<\/div>\n<p>We met Ben Burns one evening while stumbling back towards our hotel in District 1&#8217;s backpacker neighborhood of Ho Chi Minh City (HCMC). My friend and I (both tall, 30-ish, white women) had just spent the evening at the bars and dance clubs in the area, and we noticed that we received very little attention from any male patrons of any of these establishments. Overall, their attention was focused elsewhere&#8211; like on the two very hot Vietnamese women dirty dancing with each other or on the scantily clad Vietnamese lady with her hand down the front of their pants. The walk home revealed other bars that seemed to have only female clientele. Then out of nowhere a seemly American, white guy called out to us. He was sitting alone in front of an establishment that he introduced to us as &#8220;my bar&#8221;, so we sat down to have a drink with him (even though we didn&#8217;t believe him).<\/p>\n<p>It turns out it <em>was<\/em> his bar, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shotsbarsaigon.com\/\">SHOTS Bar Saigon<\/a>, and upon further interrogation, I learned he was an ex-pat punk rocker\/artist\/writer living in HCMC, but even though that was his city of choice (at the moment) he returned to the states frequently to tour with his San Jose punk band, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/pages\/Preachers-That-Lie\/145749095449836\">Preachers That Lie<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Katherine Sweetman: <\/strong>\u00a0 <strong>How does a 30 something, white guy with a punk band get himself mixed up in co-owning a bar in HCMC?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>Ben Burns: \u00a0\u00a0 Actually, 40-something, but thanks. I guess it all started ten years ago when I first met my best friend (Mike) in Japan. We were both teaching English and enjoying life. A few years ago Mike gave up teaching, moved to Vietnam and started writing e-books on dating. The idea was to make a decent income via the internet while living in a relatively poor country in order to have a good quality of life. Anyway, he invited me over to join him in the whole writing thing. I saved up my money and came over. Soon after arriving however, his fianc\u00e9 lost her job. She had been managing several bars on Bui Vien \u2013 the main backpacker strip in Saigon. So, Mike and I decided to pool our money, buy a bar and let his fianc\u00e9 run it. That, as they say, is that.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>K.S.\u00a0\u00a0 Tell me about prostitution in HMC in general and then about prostitution at Shots.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>B.B.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Prostitution in Saigon is quite varied. There are hair salons where rather than getting your hair cut, you\u2019ll get a blowjob, karaoke bars where naked girls will give you hand-jobs, girls who ride on the back of motor bikes and try to pick up tourists, club girls who will go home with you for money, and finally, bar girls\u2026otherwise known as \u201cchicken girls\u201d who are for hire.<\/p>\n<p>Our manager had been running several \u201cchicken\u201d bars on the same street before losing her job, so that\u2019s what our bar started as. However, we don\u2019t have anything to do with the prostitution side of things. Normal chicken bars will take a cut of the girls\u2019 income through prostitution. The girls would be expected to pay the bar a percentage or set fee each time they took a customer home.<\/p>\n<p>At Shots, however, we don\u2019t negotiate prices nor do we take money from either party involved in sex for pay. Here\u2019s what we do: our employees must pass a health check (including an STD check), then they serve drinks and serve as waitresses at Shots. If a customer buys them a drink, we will pay them a large percentage of that drink\u2019s cost. That\u2019s it. Oh, and we feed them. They come and go as they please and if they go home with someone, that\u2019s their business. You would be surprised though, many customers just like to have cute girls serving them drinks (think Hooters) and are willing to buy our staff drinks all night. As I said, this is how Shots started, but we are moving away from that type of business. Now Shots is a seafood restaurant in the afternoon, a bar\/party spot in the evening, and then a hostess bar\/chicken bar late night. The business keeps evolving and will likely faze out the more nefarious parts over the next year\u2026 although I hope not.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>K.S.\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0 <strong>What are you doing with yourself on a daily basis in Vietnam? (how do you spend your days?)<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>B.B.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Aside from working on my book, I am quite interested in self-defense, or to be more honest, dealing with drunk people who want to start trouble. Seems to me that if you\u2019re going to have a hooker bar in Saigon, you need to be able to take care of yourself. On a nice, productive day I would wake around noon, go to the gym, box with my trainer, take a nap, write, go out to dinner, play pool, then head in to Shots for drinks and socializing.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>K.S. \u00a0 What is your book about? What&#8217;s it called? (Tell me it&#8217;s not on e-dating)<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>B. B. \u00a0\u00a0 The book is about open relationships. Over 20 years of doing that, figured I&#8217;d write about it and the issues involved in living a sexually free life.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>K.S.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 So, how long have you been with the punk band based out of California, Preachers that Lie?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>B.B.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 P.T.L. Started in 1986. I met the drummer while setting up a tour for my first punk band Manic Depression. My band broke up in 1992 and I joined up with P.T.L. in 1995 to write and record some songs and play some shows in Northern California. Now we just get together once a year to play a few shows, lose money and stay eternally youthful. So far, so good.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>K.S.\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0 <strong>When are you going on tour again?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>B.B.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Actually my band is going to play some shows in Northern California Next month. Check us [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/#!\/pages\/Preachers-That-Lie\/145749095449836\">Preachers that Lie<\/a>] out on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/#!\/pages\/Preachers-That-Lie\/145749095449836\">Facebook<\/a> and come to our shows.<\/p>\n<p>(end interview)<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>No, I didn&#8217;t forget the fourth recommendation:<\/p>\n<p><strong>4) When you are drunk and tattooed go eat here: <a href=\"http:\/\/so-saigon.xemzi.com\/en\/spot\/5453\/lam-cafe-saigon\">LAM CAFE<\/a> or across street at <a href=\"https:\/\/foursquare.com\/v\/hello-saigon-cafe\/4d3470af280e2c0f092259bc\">Hello Saigon<\/a> (same food). 175 Bui Vien, Q1, Ho Chi Minh City<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>Want to know more about living in Asia? Check out blog by Ben and his friend Mike: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.asiawtf.com\/\">AsiaWTF<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Saigon Cool: Posters, Tattoos and &#8220;Chicken Girls&#8221; + Interview with Punk Rocker and Bar Owner Ben Burns Reviewer Goes Abroad Tweet By Katherine Sweetman Should you ever find yourself in\u00a0Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam (aka Saigon), I have four recommendations: 1) Shop at Lotus for vintage propaganda posters where you can get the originals and\/or smaller prints of real\u00a0Vietnamese agitprop [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[574,573,582,592],"tags":[651,653,654,650,652],"class_list":["post-5992","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-art","category-music","category-nightlife","category-travel","tag-ben-burns","tag-ho-chi-minh-city","tag-punk-rock","tag-saigon","tag-vietnam"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":9592,"url":"https:\/\/reviewermag.com\/press\/2013\/09\/10\/free-sex-a-practical-introduction-to-open-relationships-and-swinging\/","url_meta":{"origin":5992,"position":0},"title":"FREE SEX: A practical introduction to open relationships and swinging","author":"katherine","date":"September 10, 2013","format":false,"excerpt":"eBook on Open Relationships, Available on Amazon Posted by Katherine Sweetman With eyes closed, I savor the kiss. 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